WSBK WSBK 2018

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  1. mikesbytes

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    2019 The first race hasn't happened at PI and there's drama already;
    - Troy Herfoss the 2018 champion was hoping to bring attention to himself from the WSBK crowd by doing well at the WSBK test only to have technical problems that left him way off the pace. After FP2 he is in 4th place on combined results
    - Troy Bayliss had a problem with traffic in FP2 and had a big off. He has broken a finger but has been cleared to race. He is 2nd on combined results due to his FP1 time
    - If you wanted to know how difficult it is to race, have a look at Aiden Wagner's photo in the link following, he is 1st on combined practice results and there's not a single piece of marketing on his bike or leathers. http://www.mcnews.com.au/aiden-wagner-signals-intent-with-1m32-320-bayliss-down/
     
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    Bautista's dominance at PI has fired up a lot of banter;
    - Does it show that the riders in WSBK aren't as good as we previously thought
    - Is the Ducati V4 a vastly superior bike
    - Will Bautista make WSBK as uninteresting as it was with Rea being so dominate
    - etc etc
    To me it points towards Bautista being very good at PI, as we saw in MotoGP last year. Also tyre wear was a concern and Bautista is very good at saving the tyres
     
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  3. faffi

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    PI is a special track, and one where Rea doesn't have an all that great record. Also, the Duc may be a bit like in MotoGP in 2007, where in the right hands it can be superior, but also so particular to ride that few can do it well. Look at the other Duc riders, and they seem off pace compared to earlier years.

    I think it is reasonable to assume that the new Duc is quite similar to the GP racers, and that it benefits Bautista. Add the power advantage, and that the Spaniard is a great rider, and you had a winner. If the dominance will continue we can only speculate.

    If we go back in time, Doohan used to say that SBK riders were quite inferior to GP riders due to the former "street bikes" being far easier to ride at the limit. This is likely still correct, although to a lesser degree. Hence it should be easier for a GP rider to go to SBK than the other way around. Also, if the new Duc really is almost GP quality, it will explain why the other SBK riders on it struggle. At least for now. And why Bautista can use it to his advantage; being a little bit better rider and having a better performing machine - provided you have the skill and experience to exploit it.
     
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    In a nutshell, the Ducati revs to 16,000rpm while the rest only do 14,000rpm. Revs = Horsepower. The Ducati will have better acceleration and superior straight-line speed, giving it a massive on-track advantage. What's the bet the FIM, or whoever makes the rules up these days, whack a ceiling on engine revs as they have in MotoGP?

    ...but not until after Ducati have won the title.
     
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  5. faffi

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    I'd like to see a ceiling set where "everybody" can afford to build competitive, reliable race engines. For instance 13k rpm. Yes, money will always help, but with a lower limit, you do not need to use unobtainium in order for the engines to stay together and make decent power.

    Ideally, you would want "anything goes", but such a system is a guarantee that only the filthy rich will succeed.
     
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    I think the rev limit is based on a calculation based around the maximum revs of the production model. Ducati have clearly looked closely at the rules and hence have produced a production bike with a high rev limit. Over time they will loose 250rpm at a go
     
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    Same rules that robbed Rea's Kawasaki of revs?
     
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    Essentially yes however Kawasaki has been hit with a handicap reduction I think. It hurt the privater Kawasaki riders more than the factory team
     
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